tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1790368997436528274.post4545601479617655490..comments2023-10-18T07:23:53.731-07:00Comments on IVF - A Husband's Perspective: Bullets 2 & 3Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1790368997436528274.post-53684381208133421212021-09-05T11:10:12.012-07:002021-09-05T11:10:12.012-07:00This is a wonderful blog, thanks for sharing with ...This is a wonderful blog, thanks for sharing with us such a nice article.<br /><br /><a href="https://www.drshivanisachdevgour.co.in/best-ivf-infertility-clinic-in-delhi-ncr/" rel="nofollow">Best IVF Clinic in Delhi NCR</a> | <a href="https://www.drshivanisachdevgour.co.in/ivf-packages-cost-in-delhi-ncr/" rel="nofollow">IVF Treatment Cost in Delhi</a> | <a href="https://www.drshivanisachdevgour.co.in/best-surrogacy-centre-in-delhi-india/" rel="nofollow">Best Surrogacy Centre in Delhi</a> | <a href="https://www.drshivanisachdevgour.co.in/surrogacy-packages-cost-in-delhi-india/" rel="nofollow">Surrogacy Treatment Cost in Delhi</a> | <a href="https://www.drshivanisachdevgour.co.in/best-surrogacy-centre-in-delhi-india/" rel="nofollow">Best Surrogacy Clinic in Delhi</a><br />Dr Shivani Sachdev Gourhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05192694347661994130noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1790368997436528274.post-90001506493650516502008-01-01T07:54:00.000-08:002008-01-01T07:54:00.000-08:00Joe:There's a lot of skepticism of the post-coital...Joe:<BR/><BR/>There's a lot of skepticism of the post-coital test, in fact, it seems to be done less and less (it's very subjective and open to lots of human error by the person in the lab). So, I wouldn't be too shocked that it was not ordered the first time around (I asked about it before we proceeded to IVF and was told it was unnecessary -- that more information was available from the HSG results). In our experience, if morphology is the issue (as it was with my dh), then IVF with ICSI is really the only option. IUI's cannot overcome that male factor problem. Sorry. But maybe this new doctor can help you find out why #1 didn't work. Good luck!<BR/><BR/>Oh, and thanks so much for writing from the male perspective. This whole issue is so difficult for most men to deal with, let alone discuss with someone besides their spouse. I wish I could get my dh to read your blog!kellghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17342867590403156153noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1790368997436528274.post-4891192029095387032007-12-18T12:12:00.000-08:002007-12-18T12:12:00.000-08:00We should have done post coital testing before doi...We should have done post coital testing before doing our first round of IVF, because if I understand this whole thing correctly, post coital testing is one of the tests that help a doctor to assess whether or not IVF is even required. Based on his recommendation to conduct post coital testing, I can only deduce that Dr. Magyar may have reason to suspect Dr. Shamma's diagnosis (keep in mind he is using the same information that was available to Dr. Shamma ... clearly the two Doctors don't see eye to eye on the conclusions that can be drawn from this data) So, Dr. Magyar seems to be dismissing Dr. Shamma's conclusions, and is exploring our condition via his own approach. Where Dr. Shamma said "You need to do IVF ICSI to achieve a pregnancy." Dr. Magyar is saying "Based on the data I have at this point, there is no reason to suspect you can't achieve a pregnancy through normal means. I would like to pursue further testing to determine what is causing your difficulties." - those are two completely different conclusions drawn from the exact same set of data. In such an instance, I will side with the more conservative approach ... <BR/><BR/>As I said in my last comment, I suspect we will end up at the same place (IVF), but this time, we will have a higher degree of certainty about the diagnosis, and about the chances of success if we do proceed with IVF. I don't think couples should approach a Doctor to say "We want to do IVF" - rather, the couples should approach the Doctor saying "Please help us get pregnant" - Having only met with him once, I have a good feeling about Dr. Magyar's intentions to help us achieve a pregnancy without passing go, and proceeding directly to IVF.Joehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01027194643290267909noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1790368997436528274.post-42167511157927328752007-12-18T12:01:00.000-08:002007-12-18T12:01:00.000-08:00As long as it provides you with a level of comfort...As long as it provides you with a level of comfort, then it's worth it. Have you received any diagnosis at this point? Do they think they know what is causing your IF?Tracyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02248665952867223815noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1790368997436528274.post-56693363387809061352007-12-18T09:29:00.000-08:002007-12-18T09:29:00.000-08:00I don't get the post coital, either. If you were ...I don't get the post coital, either. If you were going to do IUI, sure, but with IVF, what's the point?I_Sell_Bookshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08047786558604545391noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1790368997436528274.post-11075006298610586822007-12-18T08:05:00.000-08:002007-12-18T08:05:00.000-08:00You know, I'm not sure what we're doing anymore! W...You know, I'm not sure what we're doing anymore! We went into this meeting with Magyar fully expecting to discuss our second round of IVF. Now it feels as if we're rewinding to the beginning, approaching the whole thing from scratch ... I'm willing to bet we'll end up doing IVF again at the end of this, but hopefully the data collected between here and there will give the Doctors more guidance in how to conduct the procedure, meds, etc. <BR/><BR/>I'm totally confused, but am okay with it! I'm more comfortable taking a slow, deliberate pace through this process ... the incremental expense we will incur as a result of the extra testing will provide incremental comfort to my wife and I. When we get to the point of having to put down REAL money on ICSI or IUI, we intend to seek a third opinion utilizing all of the data collected at that point. Maybe it's overkill, but I'm taking matters into my own hands as much as I can ...Joehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01027194643290267909noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1790368997436528274.post-6004400863778164272007-12-18T06:58:00.000-08:002007-12-18T06:58:00.000-08:00Interesting...I don't quite understand why you nee...Interesting...<BR/><BR/>I don't quite understand why you need to do the post coital if you're doing another round of IVF, though? We bypassed that test (by choice) because we'd moved on to IUIs and IVF...didn't feel it was pertinent.Tracyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02248665952867223815noreply@blogger.com